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M700 Benchmark Results Discussion

- Matt Faulkner

I have been involved in some conversations over on Tablet PC Reviews about the Toshiba M700 benchmarks.  Tiffany posted up some results that didn't look very good for the specs of the machine.  I have the same machine and my results were very similar to hers:

PC Mark 05: 3,399

Not so good for that machine Compare that to the others tested (Direct copy and past from Tablet PC Review and shortened a little)

  • Toshiba Portege M700 (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz, GMA 965 chipset)
    3,399 PCMarks
  • HP tx2000 (AMD Turion 64 X2 2.3GHz, Nvidia Go 6150 graphics)
    3,738 PCMarks
  • Asus R1E (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, GMA 965 chipset)
    4,679 PCMarks
  • Gateway C-140x (Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz, ATI X2300 HD graphics)
    4,342 PCMarks
  • Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (Intel Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz, GMA X3100 graphics)
    3,473 PCMarks
  • Fujitsu LifeBook T4220 (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz, GMA X3100 graphics)
    4,171 PCMarks
  • HP tx1000 (AMD Turion X2 2.0GHz, Nvidia Go 6150)
    3,052 PCMarks
  • Lenovo ThinkPad X60t (1.66GHz LV Core Duo)
    2,860 PCMarks

After a clean install of Vista I was able to get a respectable 4528!!!  Follow the results of some testing over on Tablet PC Review.

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Friday, February 01, 2008 9:26:14 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Didn't Tosh say they were getting rid of Crapware? Grrrrr.
Gavin Miller
Friday, February 01, 2008 9:26:28 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Matt:

With this install, does the touchpad work? Rotation?

I ask because you state that you didn't install any of the Toshiba drivers. I'm just wondering how much of what they provide is necessary.

Also, could you provide at some point the list of the intel drivers that you downloaded? For this kind of performance increase, a clean install is plainly dictated.

Thanks in advance.

cu
cuhulin
Friday, February 01, 2008 9:37:56 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Touch pad works, not all the fun little scrolling features though. Rotation works via the Intel Drivers, but not automatically from rotating the screen.

The Intel drivers were the ones from windows update. 7.14.10.1350
Friday, February 01, 2008 1:18:57 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Matt:

Your Toshiba experience parallels that of Lenovo machines; the factory build is crippled from the start and a clean install works wonders. I've been trying to understand the underlying reason for this for a couple of years now.

Question -- when you first got the Toshiba, was it formatted from the factory as FAT32 and, on first bootup, did it automatically run a FAT32 to NTFS conversion routine?
Mark (K0LO)
Friday, February 01, 2008 7:20:16 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
my theory is that the OEMs cripple newly shipped machines to accelerate the rate at which we users buy new machines. The average user will not do a fresh install of the OS and thus will get antsy for a new machine more quickly if the machine is crippled. Remember when Detroit designed cars to die before they were paid for? Same idea....

Of course I am open to other interpretations if the OEMs want to chime in to this discussion......

The bottom line is that the Moore's law is a threat to OEMs
Regular Reader
Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:43:46 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
According to Futuremark the following requirements are needed in the benchmark of PCMark05:

-Intel® or AMD® compatible processor 1.4GHz or higher, SSE support

-128MB of RAM (256MB recommended)

-DirectX 7 compliant graphics adapter (3D tests require a fully DirectX 9 compatible hardware)

-110MB of Hard Disk space *

-Windows® XP 32bit (Service Pack 2) or Windows Vistaâ„¢ 32bit operating system with latest updates installed

-DirectX® 9.0c

-Visual C++ 2005 Redist

-DirectX 9.0c

-Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 or later installed

-Microsoft Media Player 10 or later installed

-Microsoft Media Encoder 9 installed

As a X60T owner I find it shocking that the Lenovo can even be mentioned in the comparisson as it does not fulfill all the necessary requirements. I'm even surprised that directX 9 is mentioned as the Lenovo has no Geforce videocard. Lenovo is not a gaming computer (and has never been marketed as one) and in my opinion has no right to be compared in this manner.

I think PCMark05 is not a valid tool and another benchmark tool needs to be used to objectify the performance.
Medic
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