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Tuesday, August 08, 2006

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Tablet PCs Too Expensive? I Think That's Changing

- Warner Crocker

Dollar%20signsI’ve seen a number of blog posts recently from various sources in which bloggers are thinking about buying a Tablet PC but are scared away by the price. A lot of this talk has been from students preparing to go back to school. While that certainly may be true with some models and makes, it isn’t necessarily the case across the board with Tablet PCs anymore. Josh Einstein and I were chatting last night and he recently picked up a new Dual Core Gateway convertible at a great price. That prompted me to take a look at some current pricing.

First up, take a look at this ad on the Best Buy site. You can purchase a Gateway Core Duo Convertible (Tablet) PC, with a 100 gigabyte HD, 1 gig of memory, with a dual layer optical drive and much more for $1099.99 at the moment. Granted this is only one model of Tablet PC, so let’s take a look at Toshiba’s R25 that you can find at Comp USA. For very similar specs, albeit very different Tablet PCs, the R25 can be had for $1299.99. Although with specials, I’ve seen it a bit lower.

If you look at Dell’s site you’ll see that similarly configured (tough to be exact given what Dell is currently offering) Core Duo laptops are running at a base price of just over $1100, (the base “Dual Core Powerhouse is $1269 after rebates) and of course that is not including the Tablet PC OS, and only comes with XP Home. (There’s no fire extinguisher included either. Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

Certainly you can find cheaper laptops, but if you’re looking to make a purchase of a Dual Core portable or mobile computer, Tablets can now be considered right in the mix of things when you are shopping around. While this may be some apple and orange nit-picking here, I think we’re seeing the benefits of several OEMs taking a more aggressive posture in the retail channels. Now, if they’d only get a bit more aggressive in marketing and advertising those aggressive moves.



Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:56:39 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Warner,



Do you find that there is a major performance increase using the Gateway Core Duo model. I’m currently using the Gateway CX2610 with 2GB of ram installed. It sometimes is sluggish when using Outlook. Does the Core Duo give a performance bump over the the current Gateway convertible that I’m using?



Thank you,



Ken Siegel



Ken Siegel
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:33:29 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Cost can no longer be used as an excuse. I am about to write about it on my blog, but I'll say it here as well.

If you are considering getting a laptop at all and you're not sure if you're sold on Tablet PC, you really must look at this Gateway CX2724 offer from Best Buy. I'll be brutally honest, this is not a great Tablet PC... but it's a GREAT price for a very nicely equipped laptop that happens to also be a Tablet PC.

For $1,099 at Best Buy right now you get a Core Duo, 1GB of RAM, 100GB hard drive, and widescreen 14" display that just happens to oh... I don't know... RUN VISTA GLASS! As far as I'm concerned, this is the best deal I've ever seen for a new Tablet PC and I highly recommend that anyone thinking of dipping their toes in the Tablet PC waters really take a look. Because even if you wind up hating Tablet PC, it's still a very good laptop.

I know it sounds like I'm a raving Gateway fan boy but that's not really the case. I'm a Tablet PC fan boy and I really like the idea of more tablets being sold. And to be honest, I'm a bit irked by Gateway at the moment. They got in touch with me several months ago wanting to talk about possible opportunities but after a few phone calls, some free licenses, and a signed NDA, they won't even return my calls or emails. A simple "No thanks, we're not interested," would have been better. Anyway...

So that's my advice. Gateway is in a position to "convert" (no pun intended) many many laptop buyers into Tablet PC buyers.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:43:02 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
No sooner did I hit Save did I realize that I should probably clarify what I mean by not a great Tablet PC.

- It's heavy. I mean heavy. As in, I took it out of the box and said "Damn this is heavy.... oh wait... I didn't even put the battery in yet!"
- The digitizer's calibration is funky. Takes several calibrations to get it right and even still there's some spots (not just the usual edge thing) that it's off.
- The digitizer is not pressure sensitive or at least it doesn't appear to be in Vista.
- No eraser on the pen.
- The pen seems to take more pressure to register as a "click" than my LE1600 or any other tablet that I've owned.
- My particular model doesn't have integrated bluetooth. Boo!
- Yucky Google Desktop Search was preinstalled. It looks SO out of place.

Having said that. There's plenty of good.

- It's cheap!
- It's not a slate! Which means I can develop on it more.
- It's fast.
- Huge hard drive.
- Wide screen aspect ratio.
- Track pad is nicely designed.
- The clasps on the lid seem to be some kind of magnet activated thing which looks alot less likely to break than the other convertibles I've used.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:59:25 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
I here the Gateway is not durable at all. I'm really hapy with my Lenovo. I spent alot more for a less impressive machine (smaller screen, slower proc, smaller hard drive), but it'll last for years and years.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:15:26 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Ken,

The only Gateway I've used was pre-Dual Core, so I can't offer any comment on your question. Maybe, Josh and others who have gotten their hands on the Dual Core can shed some light.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:40:04 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Josh,
How does the core duo compare with the Gateway CX2610 that I'm currently using. Even with 2GB of ram installed it seems to hang up a bit using Outlook and my exchange server. Would a core duo processor help that as well? Also using Windows media player 11 with Urge is deadly slow.
Ken Siegel
Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:10:33 AM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
I don't know how it would compare to your machine because I haven't used your machine. :)

Dual core != twice as fast though. It mostly improves multitasking. Within a process, you can have multiple threads going (the application must be designed to take advantage of this.) And within the OS you can have several processors. Where dual core helps is in the case where one thread or process needs full or near full use of the CPU. Dual core allows the other processes and threads to run at a reasonable speed. In some cases, by tweaking the processor affinity, this can have a huge impact on performance. For example, Virtual PC runs great if you set it to one core with realtime priority. And the rest of the system will not suffer.

Where dual core won't help is applications that are poorly designed such that network or disk IO can freeze up the user interface. This includes applications like Napster, Outlook, Windows Media Player, etc. Better application design is the only thing that can improve that.
Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:42:23 AM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Part of the reason I went with my Q1 UMPC instead of a slate was the price; it's nice to see some models are coming down now to meet that $1k price band.

-- Steve
Anton P. Nym
Thursday, August 10, 2006 5:45:51 AM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Office Depot also has a Gateway for 999 in the past week's ad.

The thing I found interesting (or annoying) about the ad was they reference the swivel screen by saying "You can show others" or something along that line.

The ad (for my zip) can be found here:
http://officedepot.shoplocal.com/officedepot/Default.aspx?action=browsepageflash&storeid=2478166&rapid=302075&pagenumber=1&prvid=OfficeDepot-060806&promotioncode=OfficeDepot-060806
Fred Beiderbecke
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