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Monday, February 05, 2007

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Installing Vista on the Asus R2H: A Rough Road

- Warner Crocker

Have you seen this picture that adorns the new Ultra-Mobile PC site for Microsoft?

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Wonder why the guy holding up the Asus R2H is sort of hiding behind it? Probably because installing Vista on the R2H is not for the faint of heart and can leave you with a sour taste in your mouth if you don’t have the patience of Job.

Yes, installing Vista on the Asus R2H can be done. I’ve done it. Unlike jkkmobile, I don’t have everything working yet. (He keeps promising that he’ll post his process some day. Any day now jkk, will be just fine.) Like some other devices, drivers are the big issue. There are no Vista drivers available for the R2H at the moment and some of the XP drivers will do the trick. Some don’t. At least in my case. At the moment I don’t have the fingerprint reader working, nor any method of changing the screen resolution. I also don’t have the hardware indicators working to tell me if Bluetooth or Wireless are on. Of course there is no rotation available either. These things might become real deal breakers, if Vista drivers don’t show up. They are annoying in their absence to say the least. I haven’t even attempted to get the GPS working yet, so I don’t know one way or the other on that one.

What I do have working I like a lot. The inking experience is excellent. Even more so that it was with XP and I’ve been very pleased with it using XP. The system is certainly snappier without all of the Asus CRAPWARE that was included on the original install. In fact, it is snappier than I expected given the 1.0 Vista Performance score on the R2H. Intriguingly, the system reports an additional 20 minutes of battery life under Vista than it ever did under XP. That certainly flies in the face of a lot of info already out there, but it is true. I wish I had run a Battery Eater test before moving from XP, but I didn’t have that foresight.

But back to installation issues and why you need patience. The biggest issues have to do with screen resolution. After Vista did its thing (I opted for a clean install not an upgrade) very few of the screens you need to manipulate adjust for the default screen resolution. This makes it almost impossible to move forward at times with some amazing gymnastics trying to tap or click on a button. The Vista adaptive touch mouse metaphor came up after the install, but the calibration was way off. Of course the process to calibrate the screen opens up windows with controls you can’t reach, so you’re really in a bind there. I finally managed to get the resolution changed, but then a new gotcha appears. You can’t scroll the screen in a higher resolution, and the Taskbar and Start button are therefore located forever out of your view. The only way I could change things back was to get to the Device Manager, uninstall the video driver and let Windows restore it after a cold shut down using the power button. Scary stuff.

Some other observations:

  • That adaptive touch mouse metaphor is a real waste. It just doesn’t make any sense the way I use the touch screen.
  • Touch is easier to use under Vista than it was under XP. Everything feels more responsive with less pressure, and when I’m using a stylus I get no vectoring or registration issues.
  • I’ve seen a similar issue that MiniMage reported with the Wireless card disappearing, but so far only once.

Asus certainly isn’t the only OEM out there not being johnny on the spot with drivers. While there is great hope that they will do so soon, I remember distinctly an interview Matt Faulkner and I had with an Asus rep at CES. The rep said he didn’t believe Vista drivers would be made available, which is really interesting considering that Vista Capable sticker on the device. I’m not taking the rep’s word as a final decision by any means, (am I an eternal optimist or what?) but given the lack of drivers it does make one wonder.

So does that picture on the Microsoft site. In many ways, it irks me when I see it. It certainly suggests a nice Vista experience on the Asus R2H. And I think you can get there, if you’re willing to jump through some hoops, have a good bit of knowledge, and know where to look. But the average Joe and Jane aren’t going to want to spend the time to do so. In my opinion, they will be thoroughly frustrated if they try to do it on their own. At the very least that picture is misleading.

I’ll keep experimenting before I leave on my next trip in a few days and with my luck, Asus will release new drivers while I’m away.

 

 



Monday, February 05, 2007 6:17:08 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Warner, what drivers did you use? Most of the time the trick is to install or use first the drivers that came in the CDs with your device. I some cases they can be updated later on in other cases you can't let the system update the drivers. Taking this in consideration after the install of Vista you have to run the windows update and after that install all the drivers from your device CDs.
Monday, February 05, 2007 6:19:23 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I used the drivers from the CDs and did the Windows Update. As I said, some things worked fine, others did not.
Monday, February 05, 2007 7:57:22 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I think JKK did *just* a windows update. No other driver installs.
Maybe he'll be around later. He's usually a late (euro) worker.

S.
Monday, February 05, 2007 8:14:16 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Have you tried just doing a windows Xp to Vista upgrade or did you go by the Clean install method?

I did both on my x60 tablet before lenovo came out with their vista drivers. I found the upgraded path to be "safer" in that alot more devices were ported over to Vista than in the clean install method.

blademonkey
Monday, February 05, 2007 12:15:57 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
In a store in my town, I saw an R2H appearing to be running XP Tablet Edition... with Origami Experience installed! Unless Vista has an XP skin, that would mean Origami Experience doesn't really require Vista ... I'll try to go back there later.
Simon
Monday, February 05, 2007 5:43:46 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I feel your pain, Warner. I put Vista back on my R2H last week, and I have almost everything working, but still some things aren't.

To get the fingerprint reader working, just install the fingerprint app from the R2H driver CD (this is one that they don't make available on their site for download). You wouldn't think it would work, but it does. I can log on to Vista with my fingerprint now, and the fingerprint app behaves normally (though I admit I'm not using it for anything besides login right now).

You can install just about everything else from the Asus site and CD, leaving out things like Splendid, Power4Gear, Mobile Theater, InfoPen, the camera app, etc.

The on screen display to adjust volume/brightness is working, after installing most of the stuff from the CD, but screen resolution doesn't work yet. I've tried several versions of the video driver - downloaded from Asus, what Vista installs by default, and from the CD. No dice yet. I believe you need to get the little Intel tray icon (igfxtray.exe) to install and stay resident, but I haven't figured that one out yet. Might try downloading drivers from the Intel site next.

You can also copy the contents of the GPS folder (I forget the exact name, but keep all the files together) and put them somewhere on your system, then make shortcuts to the "DEVICE_SWITCH" and "LAN_SWITCH" files. Run them to toggle the GPS and LAN port on and off. It seems to work, though I haven't tried any GPS apps yet.

What still isn't working for me:

Screen resolution switching
WiFi and Bluetooth indicator LEDs
Wireless Button (the "Wireless Console" app won't install)

Other than that, though, everything else is good. The wifi, bluetooth, screen, and touch/input drivers work beautifully, after a run through Windows Update.

I'll be watching to see about getting these last few up and running! Good luck! :-)
Monday, February 05, 2007 5:55:55 PM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Good info, Josh. Really appreciate. The adventure continues.
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:18:13 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
Small comment: Recently, I made two BatteryEater tests on my R2H under XP with a 4 cell battery: 2:20 hours with full brightness and wifi/BT switched on, and 3:20 hours with lowest brightness and wife/BT switched off.
doc_oli
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:00:18 AM (Mountain Standard Time, UTC-07:00)
I've got the screen resolution changer (aslo changes volume, contrast etc) to display, and it will change the screen resolution-dont know how as I couldt at first - I think it was due to either installing drivers off the Driver CD that was shipped with the unit, or using Intel's latest drivers from their website.

******
Microanvika a UK Asus site (Who i believe are usually a firs to get hold of Asus things and they get special pacages from Asus are preparing to retail a Vista installed Asus R2H from new!!!!!!!

check the page:-
http://www.microanvika.com/product.asp?TXT=INFO&PNO=ASU14423

To me this implies that asus are planning to load the R2H with vista from new and sell it that way....and I'd imagine this would mean they would have rewrote the drivers for Vista in order to ship to sell the unit in a useable state. So maybe they will be availabel from Asus soon! Lets hope so!
Dave Maiden
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