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Tuesday, October 09, 2007

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Talking Tablet PCs and Intrusive Computer Screens

- Rob Bushway

The following is the second in a series from Mike Moore

- Mike Moore

For those who have children not yet six years old, I’m going to let you in on a secret.  There will come a time when much of your adult conversation will take place on the sidelines... at the soccer field, baseball diamond, fencing salle, or at dance lessons.  Such was the case a few weeks ago when I ran into some old friends.

The occasion was the first soccer game for my young daughter.  I ran into another parent who I had last seen at a soccer game for my youngest son- at least 4 years ago.  Her husband is a professor at a seminary.  He knew of a colleague who uses a Tablet PC in his teaching, but was not acquainted with it himself.  We discussed the phenomenon of students and their laptops in class, the instructor seeing the backs of computer screens rather than the faces of students.  At first I thought this a bit unfair, as I had no computer screen to hide behind when I was a student.  Closed eyelids or a dazed look were obvious to see in those days.  I still remember with fondness the time in organic chemistry when I awoke to a quiet voice asking me, “Where ya going, Mikey?” with my head drooped forward and my nose about one inch above the desktop.

But then I realized that screens really offer little protection, as a dozing student now appears to be a laptop computer sitting on the torso of a human body, and the silence of inactive computer keys must be deafening at times.

I had not expected her comments, however.  ”The last time I was at the doctor’s office with the kids they were using a computerized system.  I understand what they were doing, but it seemed a little strange when they spent most of the time looking down at the keyboard instead of at me.”  Clearly they were not using Tablets.  Having a PhD herself, computers per se were not a distraction.  This issue of computers interfering with the doctor patient relationship has received attention elsewhere both here and here.  

At the risk of “making a mountain out a mole hill”, I’m about to make a mountain out of something.  (Rant Warning)

Didn’t our parents teach us when we were very young, “Look at me when I’m talking to you”? For those of us who are doctors, we were taught, “It is well known that the interviewer may learn more about the patient from the way in which the patient tells a story than from the story itself.”*  “The interviewer should sit in a chair directly facing the patient in order to make good eye contact.”   “It is poor form to write extensive notes during the interview. Attention should be focused more on what the person is saying and less on the written word.  In addition, by taking notes, the interviewer cannot observe the facial expressions and body language that are so important to the patient’s story.”

By embracing and implementing technology that inhibits our interaction with patients, we are making business practice the priority over the practice of the healing profession.  Not only is this compromising our oath as physicians to care for our patients, but in the long run it is probably poor business practice as well!  “Most malpractice litigation is the result of a deterioration of the traditional doctor-patient relationship rather than the result of true medical negligence.” 

I am sure there are physicians who are skilled at maintaining adequate eye contact and rapport with patients while typing, but I bet the majority of us would prefer writing on a Tablet PC.  It is only a derivation of what we are accustomed to, not a major change.  There is a problem when the patient thinks the doctor is more focused on data input than listening to his/her concerns, and an even bigger problem when the doctor actually is more focused on data input than listening, even if unintentional.

*Quotations from: Textbook of Physical Diagnosis; History and Examination- 2nd Ed./Mark H. Schwartz, 1994, pp. 5-8.



Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:56:13 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Interesting discussion item. Let me first comment on the blog my pointing out that I was a little puzzled as to who was referred at the doctor's office: a doctor or the children looking at the monitor. However this was corrected later on, referring to the doctor.

As a Dutch doctor I am entirely familiar with the practical aspects of how a doctor works in the United States. However I do presume the method of patient interviewing is similar.

I think it is safe to say that the example mentioned above does not apply to every doctor.

There is a truth in the quoted line from Schwartz that you can learn more from a patient by the way he/she tells the story. A drawback of this method however is that the importance of the story can also be lost, because you are interpreting the story, rather than listening. It is also called passive listening. Many patients however feel it is more important that they feel that their complaint is heard and understood. This requires the attention of the listner, in this case the doctor. This is called active listening. What I am trying to imply is that a doctor who is typing and looking at his/her monitor is not necessarily a passive listener, in the sense that because he is not looking at you, he is not listnening. However, to the patient this is at times awkward, as the patient sometimes needs a none-verbal signal, that he/she is being listened to (e.g. doctor looking at the patient).

I believe the infulence of technology in the patient-doctor relationship has made the health system more business oriented. However every story has another side to it. For an adequate health care system with optimal non-delay, primary care, diagnostics, treatment and follow-up requires a massive organization. Medical Knowledge has increased increadibly with the never ending improvements in medical technology, and specialization is becoming an increased necessity if we want to maintain quality from patient and public demand. Control is needed to improve medical safety. This requires accurate documentation, if only for medicolegal reasons. To save a mountain of paperwork and unnecessary searching of thousands of paper documents the computer has made it easier for doctor's to assess patients and their history.

I am not convinced that the example of the doctor mentioned in the blog apllies for all doctor's. The new generation have grown up with computers, and I believe many are capable to use a computer wisely during a patient interview. It is however inevitalbe that during the interview the doctor will have to look at the screen and type or write, even if it is a tablet pc. They are in many cases doctor cues that they have colleted important clues during the interview and they are reflecting in themselves to proces the data, reflect on their diagnosis, perhaps prepare specific questions or think ahead in diagnostics to help reach a conclusion at the end of the consult. A patient may not realize it but one or two sentences the patient can provide a lot of information for the doctor.

I am not convinced that a doctor with a tablet pc on his desk or lap will necessarily increase doctor-patient eye contact. Rather it is the skill of the doctor on how he uses it. Administration and patient history (update) and interview will always require a moment of writing/typing and thus looking at the screen. During an interview a doctor could set technology aside for a moment and just listen. When a moment presents itself the doctor could interupt the interview and take some notes on the computer or tablet pc.
Medic
Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:34:40 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful response. Let me begin with what we agree on.

We agree that the complexity of medical care has increased dramatically, and advances in information technology need to be employed to manage the data. In fact, my interest in adapting computer technology in medicine began in the late '90s as many of my patients had multiple problems requiring multiple medications. Simply keeping an updated medication list was tiresome. I am not against the use of technological advances, I just want them to be the servant of the doctor and patient.

I agree that many physicians are able to maintain adequate eye contact and rapport with patients while typing, as I said in my original post. But I think this number is a minority, while you apparently think the majority can. Certainly having a Tablet PC will not automatically make one a better doctor, and caring and skillful doctors can overcome many hindrances. That said, as long as we are spending money to aid the practice of medicine, let us use tools that fit the way doctors work. For myself, and many others, that will be a Tablet. (See example of Marshfield Clinic at:
http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/7474_Marshfield_Clinic_Case_Study_FINAL.doc)
Mike Moore
Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:01:34 PM (Mountain Daylight Time, UTC-06:00)
Thanks for the file. I won't be able to finish reading the doucment untill this weekend. I am not sure I can respond to this blog by that time.
Medic
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