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iOS 7 Jailbreak Status: What’s Done And Why a Release Date is Unknown



The iOS 7 jailbreak is in the works with progress coming from Planetbeing and other members of the Evad3rs jailbreak team who recently spoke about iOS security at a security conference in Kuala Lampur and took time to share a status update for the iOS 7 jailbreak, which is likely to be the first iPhone 5s jailbreak.

Earlier this month Planetbeing announced that the team may have all of the pieces of the iOS 7 jailbreak, which is great news for users hoping to free iOS 7 from the shackles of Apple’s App Store, but Evad3rs team member pod2g cautioned that the iOS 7 jailbreak release date is not coming next week. Sure enough, two weeks later there is no iOS 7 jailbreak.

The iOS 7 jailbreak progress continues as a team member shares details.

The iOS 7 jailbreak progress continues as a team member shares details.

While there is no iOS 7 jailbreak yet, Cammy Harbison of iDesignTimes scores a collection of important details about the iOS 7 jailbreak progress direct from Planetbeing, and best of all it is not in cryptic Tweets.

The interview sheds light on what is happening and what the team accomplished in the short time since the iOS 7 update arrived, as well as what still needs done before users will realistically see an iOS 7 jailbreak.

The iOS 7 Jailbreak for iPhone 5s & More

The iOS 7 jailbreak that the Evad3rs are working on should work for all modern iOS 7 devices, including the iPhone 5s. This is also good news for users hoping the iOS 7 jailbreak will work on the iPad mini 2 and iPad 5 which may use the same A7 64 bit processor.

Planetbeing states, “I’m sure it’ll be for all devices.” in response to whether or not the iPhone 5s A7 processor would be an issue. This means that the iOS 7 jailbreak will very likely support the following devices at release.

  • iPhone 5s
  • iPhone 5
  • iPhone 4s
  • iPhone 4
  • iPad mini
  • iPad mini 2
  • iPad 2
  • iPad 3
  • iPad 4
  • iPad 5

Keep in mind this list is based on the “all devices” statement but does not come directly from the Evad3rs. If the team is able to pull this off it would be a big win for consumers who want to install apps that Apple does not approve.

Too Early to think about an iOS 7 Release Date

The IOS 7 jailbreak pieces are coming together, but at this point the actual release date is not something the team is thinking about. While they may have all the pieces in mind, there is still writing and testing to be done. Planetbeing sates,

“We don’t have a real proof-of-concept finished. I just believe we have all the individual pieces we need, but they haven’t been written/tested. They just mostly exist in our head right now as a plan. It’s too early to worry about actual release date issues yet since we have no idea what kind of implementation challenges we might run into that might significantly skew the schedule. I was just saying that I think it should be possible to release a jailbreak eventually at least.”

With the last jailbreak we saw progress come in bursts with photos showing the jailbreak on various devices and once the process is complete, the team still needs to make a user-friendly iOS 7 jailbreak tool and test the process on a larger scale.

Plan for an Untethered iOS 7 Jailbreak

The iOS 7 jailbreak for the iPhone 4 is available right now, but it is a tethered jailbreak that offers limited functionality. It sounds like the Evad3rs are planning an untethered iOS 7 jailbreak, which is more beneficial to the average jailbreak user.

An untethered iOS 7 jailbreak is the goal.

An untethered iOS 7 jailbreak is the goal.

A tethered jailbreak requires the iPhone or iPad be connected to a computer when it reboots. This means the user needs a computer nearby if the battery dies or if there is another issue that forces the phone to restart. The untethered jailbreak, which is what the Evad3rs released for iOS 6.1, lets users reboot as needed.

Cydia for iOS 7 is Broken

Even if the iOS 7 jailbreak arrived tomorrow, there would be little that user could do as Cydia is not working on iOS 7 at this time. It looks like there is some success on porting Cydia to iOS 7, but it’s not complete for the average user yet.

Once Cydia is on iOS 7, we’ll also need to wait for iOS 7 jailbreak apps to arrive and iOS 7 Cydia tweaks to come from jailbreak developers.

Read:Β 7 Jailbreak Apps That Are Obsolete Thanks to iOS 7

With new iPads coming next week and rumors of a fast iOS 7.0.3 update or even a quicker than normal iOS 7.1 update release, there are a lot of moving parts for the jailbreak, but users should take solace in the progress made in a relatively short time.



  1. Larry

    10/18/2013 at 12:24 pm

    Cool I need this, lost it thanks to apple store on iOS 6.1.4 on iPhone 5s now hope to see a jail break

  2. Ijaz

    10/18/2013 at 4:04 pm

    I am desperately waiting for jailbreak

  3. Charlotte

    10/18/2013 at 4:15 pm

    Same her i even sent them some money lol to help out :-)

    • Larry

      10/18/2013 at 9:41 pm

      If they don’t get a JB on iOS 7 I’m going back to android!! I give up waiting why give them money just to go sip beer and try to figure something they can’t?? At least I can sell my 64 gb gold iphone 5s for up to $900 plus :))) best of all it’s unlocked to work on all networks!! Any offers?? Winner takes all lol lol

      • [email protected]

        10/19/2013 at 4:14 am

        Larry chil out an give the lads a break,they never charge an no one asked for your money,people like you are so annoying !!

        • Larry

          10/19/2013 at 8:52 am

          Not my money the post above mine you idiot!! Can you read douche bag

          • Tuppin sabag

            10/20/2013 at 3:45 pm

            Your post seemed to imply they wanted your money. Take a deep breath. With your pretty gold iPhone

      • WardMD

        10/19/2013 at 11:11 am

        Go ahead, Larry, LEAVE!

        This hand-wringing and complaints of slow to deliver Jailbreak is like complaining that the it’s taking TOO LONG to pick the lock of the NEW, LATEST AND GREATEST safe.

        I mean, you DO REALIZE (don’t you?) that Apple is ACTIVELY TRYING (with each release) to PLUG the holes (defects, technically) that ALLOW Jailbreaks to happen?

        YES, Apple doesn’t condone Jailbreaking their iOS, but it’s JUST AS MUCH for “NORMAL” Security Reasons (to prevent malicious software from being installed on your iOS device) as it is to prevent Jailbreaking.

        The mere fact that these dedicated (and UNPAID) hackers have (so far) been successful in Jailbreaking the iOS devices (and, it would appear, that they “have all the pieces” to Jailbreak iOS 7) is remarkable (dangerous for Apple, but GOOD for us).

        Unless YOU are an active member of the Jailbreaking community (that is to say, YOU are trying to HELP discover the flaws that will allow a Jailbreak to be implanted into an iOS device), OR you are FINANCIALLY supporting the team of hackers TRYING to do so, might I suggest you simply SHUT THE F&^% UP and let these BRILLIANT and DEDICATED people do the HARD WORK!

        • Apple to be gone

          10/19/2013 at 7:09 pm

          Up yours wardMD apple sucks ass you have to JB just to make iphone look good and besides I just sold my 5s gold 64 gb on eBay for $1300.00 apple is good for one thing only!! Resale value!! But reliability NOPE!! Such a glitchy I device!! The ip 5s was my first and last crapple device at least a android you don’t need a idiotic JB!!! So go f#%k yourself and get your ideas right douche bag!! You apple fagbot!!

          • m

            10/20/2013 at 6:03 pm

            im going to take a knock at this and say you have to be a little kid in your parents house, because no mature human will get that over worked over one persons opinion, i have used every iphone and just about every top of the line android. there both good. android wins on things and apple wins on things. you dont hear people calling you a fagget and going on naming countless immature comments over the stuff that apple has beat android over? (and i can name countless and if your smart and really know tech then you can to) you obviously showing you know nothing about tech by using obscure language over a simple comment. you obviously feel pretty threatened, and if thats the case android cant be that much better in your opinion if your that worried over a comment? try and grow up and get your head on right. good day.

        • Caesar

          10/19/2013 at 7:28 pm

          You need to chill there mr.ward!! Get over it JB and apple can go to hell and you!!

          • Tuppin sabag

            10/20/2013 at 3:48 pm

            If you don’t change the tone/ wording of your posts, just changing your username isn’t going to make anyone think there are multiple people who feel the same way you do.

      • Daniel

        10/20/2013 at 6:07 pm

        To Larry I know right lol

  4. jorg

    10/19/2013 at 12:49 am

    I have this really nice paperweight that has pretty little pictures and makes phone calls…

    • Chicken

      10/19/2013 at 9:35 am

      They call that a mobile phone.

    • IOU812

      10/19/2013 at 7:21 pm

      Must be a iphone?? lol that’s all it’s good for, a nice paperweight!!

  5. Ios7 lover

    10/19/2013 at 9:58 am

    How can I cheat my credit score? Lol

  6. Bau

    10/19/2013 at 9:59 am

    At last! Appstore of mine wont even let me download anything!

  7. Mark

    10/19/2013 at 3:24 pm

    I’m only frustrated because Apple swapped out my 4S a few days ago when the volume up button froze. So I lost my jailbreak AND PDAnet! I use it daily. They DID give me an IOS6 4S, but, in doing the jailbreak, the reboot UPDATED TO IOS7. So I’ve lost PDAnet. Meanwhile, when mobil, I’ll use the iPhone to do what I want. It’s just much less screen with which to work. Leo Laporte, on The Tech Guy ( today said that there IS an IOS7 jailbreak. But I didn’t hear him say where to get it. So, if we all just wait a while, it’ll be here. It’s just that we all HATE TO WAIT.

  8. Ekene

    10/19/2013 at 7:28 pm

    Thumbs πŸ‘ up for guys working on this jailbreak stuff u guys are really trying.more grease to ur elbows.Thanks

    • Marco

      10/19/2013 at 8:08 pm

      Don’t think so πŸ‘ŽπŸ‘ŽπŸ‘ŽπŸ‘ŽπŸ‘Ž

  9. sdte

    10/20/2013 at 6:31 am

  10. Me

    10/20/2013 at 7:32 am

    Maybe they’ll give it to us as Christmas gifts! :-)

    • Mathias

      10/25/2013 at 3:08 pm

      Probably next Christmas, and not this one coming… ZzzZz. The worlds slowest process..

  11. Juan west

    10/20/2013 at 11:54 am

    For all the android fans out there… How do you like being forced to buy a new phone because the manufacturer won’t support an update… In an attempt to stiff arm you into buying a new one. I love the freedom of open source, however a company than can sell 9 million phones in a weekend, create a wonderfully new and fresh design to an operating system that not only the new phones can get but phones as far back as the 4 can as well, and on top of all that pouring millions of dollars into just creating something secure (from the a7 chip to the very structure of ios7)… Their products are worth it, and if I was wrong, well so is the majority.

    That being said, I have to tip my hats to the everyone currently involved in the jailbreak process! From the some of us who give what we can, to those of you who are actively perusing (and teaching other how to as well) the hunt for these exploits. You unsung heroes that many of us only know through social media nets. Thanks for cracking software that a multi-billion dollar company spent millions to secure;) and making iPhone that much better!

    Oh and p.s. Larry , apple be gone and any of the above who bothered to read this and get angry.. You should know its because IM right, and that deep down inside you know it. Amongst countless other reason, you must admit.. You’re wrong. And as hard as it’s gonna be to accept that, someday you’ll look in the mirror… Reflecting on your, probably a mullet, or lack of hair.. You’ll finally see that android has always been holding you back! If you had just gone with a 3GS instead of a myTouch all those years ago, perhaps things wouldve been different! Your wife probably wouldn’t have been spending so much time at the neighbors, your kids wouldn’t have stopped calling you dad.. And who knows maybe you could’ve been a great guy.. But the thing that’s holding you back.. Is the small fact that you’re wrong. And as soon as you accept that, you can be right again, and we can get you a iPhone 4 8gb… I don’t wanna overload you with too much( I know androids wouldn’t have prepared you for a 5s)… But someday you’ll be there! Looks like you know what you need to do;)have a great day!

    -sent from my iPhone

    • njdan30

      10/20/2013 at 12:10 pm

      why am i forced to buy a new phone? my old s2 is running the latest 4.3 just fine thank u and im rooted and do what i want with MY device

    • Larry

      10/20/2013 at 3:13 pm

      I was glad I sold my gold iphone 5s 64 gb on eBay for $ 1300.00 thanks apple I only paid 399.00, now happy with my android phone and still have $800.00 bucks extra:)) apple and iOS 7 and the 5S was doomed since last years maps on the 5 and Tim cook don’t know his ass hole from a hole in the ground or his dick from his thumb!! And poor Steve jobs is turning in his grave wanting to FIRE Tim cook or Tim crook apple is out for there profits not the buyer so all you apple iphone people get this through your heads!! Stop waiting in long lines for it or buying the first day online just to be disappointed!! Enough said end of discussion!!! Reply all you want the truth hurts don’t it??

      • Tuppin sabag

        10/20/2013 at 3:50 pm

        8 million sold in a weekend = doomed

        • larry

          10/20/2013 at 6:39 pm

          ya 8 million regrets buying it

      • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

        10/20/2013 at 9:32 pm

        but apple is so much more powerful and more fluid…..especially when their water logged

      • who shives a git

        10/20/2013 at 10:13 pm

        smartest thing you done was find some sucker to take that junk off your hands

    • Feng

      10/20/2013 at 6:19 pm

      Android is about choice. If you value big screens, you can have it; if you value sound quality, you can have it; if you value physical keyboards, you can have it; and if you value the ability to upgrade to the newest version of the OS, you can have it. The Nexus devices are guaranteed to be able to upgrade to the newest OS as they come out, and Samsung is also pretty good at upgrading their old devices. Sure, there are manufacturers who fail to do this, but why do you choose one of them if you value the ability to upgrade?

    • Larry

      10/20/2013 at 8:44 pm

      Up yours puto joto!!

    • who shives a git

      10/20/2013 at 10:09 pm

      reading this comment was more painful then a prostate exam

  12. njdan30

    10/20/2013 at 12:11 pm

    also for you guys waiting on jailbreak even if it was to happen right now cydia dont run on ios 7 any ways right now

  13. njdan30

    10/20/2013 at 12:25 pm

    and nothing for nothing juan what exactly can u do that i cant with my android?i know my s2 s3 and s4 can do allot more and yes i own a crapple too thats jail broken and still sux compared to my androids

  14. njdan30

    10/20/2013 at 12:45 pm

    I can add more memory to my 32gig can you?Hey can you flash roms at will?can you customize your phone to be unique unlike the rest of the drones?you have a good day too Juan

    • Tuppin sabag

      10/20/2013 at 3:53 pm

      If you’re happy with your phone, that’s great. Why do you care what anyone else uses or what they say? Why do you care about jailbreak articles? Do you think you might be missing out or something? Are you upset they don’t talk about your phone on the news? Who cares?

      • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

        10/20/2013 at 9:24 pm

        i see both in the news what are you talking about?

      • who shives a git

        10/20/2013 at 10:06 pm

        omg im upset they dont talk about my two cans and a string no more either.i feel like im missing out on something and i got a fetish for jailbreak articles yay….i got mail yay

    • m

      10/20/2013 at 6:16 pm

      this is funny because i have owned many phones form the s3,s4,note 2 and so one. rooted, romed, flashed everything, and i have owned all iphones (including my iphone 5s) and what i find funny in all my years of tech knowledge is that you may be able to do all hat stuff to an android but it does damage the phone. everytime its flashed and rommed. now with that being said everyone knows that if you don’t reset an android at least a few times a month that it will lagg up and freeze. (even the s4 and note 2) there are too many open source programs running together on android that are not compatible. its not about what you can do one one that you cant do on the other. because obviously do the same thing minus some silly marketing scheme like air vew and air scroll that have zero purpose but to show off to friends and look stupid in a public area. they all call,text and give communication to another person. no offense but your comment is very uneducated and no real terms to back it up. like i said i have used all the phones. and everyone that knows tech knows that apple makes a more fluid running device and is simple and don’t have to spend extra seconds looking for stuff. if you like that then get an iphone if not get an android. problem solved don’t come on here looking stupid trying to compare android to apple. there obviously two different OS. and there is a reason for that. BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE LIKES WHAT YOU DO. hope you relearned what you should of learned in 3rd grade. good day to YOU njdan30

      • njdan30

        10/20/2013 at 9:07 pm

        i had a great day ,thanks a million for your concern,if you were so happy with your device then why are you on here looking to jailbreak,the only reason i look into it is because i flash phones every day from one carrier to another and i have tons of customers that made the same mistake many of you done and jumped the gun with the lame update and now they are stuck with their lame device on a carrier they are not happy with.and as far as lag thanks to apple and their update i hear complaint after complaint on how their phone was ok before but now it lags and battery life sucks etc.i really don’t give a flying f*#k if you like what i do.i never asked for your or any ones approval and i never will.and yes you really must of learned allot in your 5 years of third grade.jump puppet jump

      • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

        10/20/2013 at 9:30 pm

        boy you really told him

      • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

        10/20/2013 at 9:41 pm

        NOT EVERY ONE CARES WHAT YOU DO EITHER,,,,you are obviously one of the ones with the shards in you panties from walmart

    • Larry

      10/20/2013 at 8:47 pm

      Juan go back to Mexico you can’t afford to buy an iphone go to walmart and get your prepay like all you wetbacks do

  15. Untold

    10/20/2013 at 1:16 pm

    Please Hurry Up Guys .. I didn’t have a choice but to update to IOS 7 .. My Phone is soooooooooo ugly now .. I need my Pikachu loading thing back and everything else that was so pretty and customisable ;)
    I hate android so I can’t go over to the Dark Side 3:)
    I seriously might have to try Nokia and Windows soon .. At least the 41mp camera is a bonus .. O.o

    • Tuppin sabag

      10/20/2013 at 3:57 pm

      There is no dark side. Use what works best for you. If you don’t want iOS 7, android is a much better choice than windows.

      It’s pointless to take sides, these companies don’t care about any of us.

      • larry

        10/20/2013 at 6:44 pm

        apple sure dont care they care on there profits not the buyer, gee how many returns were done out of a supposed 8 million sold???? they sure wont tell ya that

        • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

          10/20/2013 at 9:28 pm

          7.9 the others are on here crying about no jail break lmmfao

      • middleground

        10/20/2013 at 8:17 pm

        I concur

  16. m

    10/20/2013 at 6:08 pm

    its funny how everyone is bitching because there not hurrying up, well honestly i don’t see anyone else doing anything and i’m pretty sure half you people on here couldn’t figure out how to write and test a jailbreak in the first place. (without googling it). so with that being said, get a job, and do this magic thing that people have been doing for a while and BUY THE STUFF YOU WANT? wow…now there is an idea. and if you can afford it, then you cant get it. just like anything else. you cant jailbreak walmart to get free groceries for your family because you cant afford them right?. now if people wasn’t even working on this JB everyone would be bitching bc no one was working on it. people always want something. greedy people its sad.

    • IOU812

      10/20/2013 at 6:51 pm

      i did jail break walmart i quit going there!! and didnt even need any ios or os nothing!!! and yes my frig is full all the time and my kitchen too i wouldnt shop walmart if i was paid to do so!! ralphs and albertsons and stater bros are my favs, and are not expensive like most complain, just all the lazy welfare people who go to all the ghetto markets and buy out dated foods and get the shards in there underpants!!! and go to costco and stock up on toilet paper due to the shards!!!

      • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

        10/20/2013 at 9:43 pm

        i like shards and i don’t use toilet paper

        • Larry

          10/20/2013 at 9:48 pm

          They use news paper

          • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

            10/20/2013 at 9:49 pm

            i do like the dog and drag my ass on the rug lmmfao

    • njdan30

      10/20/2013 at 10:50 pm

      wow talk about some one who talks like s 3rd grader .do u even read the sh!t you post?

      • Larry

        10/21/2013 at 12:38 pm

        Wow you shard your panties?? Bad mood?? Need a Kotex ?? Yes u do!!! Get the ultra with wings for them heavy day like you have!!

        • Larry2

          10/21/2013 at 1:10 pm

          wow perves and guys who play with tampons no wonder no ones working on a jailbreak

    • who shives a git

      10/20/2013 at 10:52 pm

      but yet here you are on here with your thumb up your a$$ wishing for a jailbreak too and for what?so you can get free apps and make your crapple something it isn’t?and you know im right

  17. middleground

    10/20/2013 at 8:09 pm

    i see a lot of people complaining about ios 7 JB not being out yet but have you apple defector stopped and thought about why androids are so cheap and easily customizable or even the fact that android and ios are essentially the same OS and one is in jail vs the other being more user open. jeeeewizzzzzz you people are like kids you see bells and whistles and get excited think about what was perfected first (IOS) before you make stupid comments and comparisons with of technology that you have such little knowledge on.

    I am by no means a developer in any way, but I am a pretty technical use and I have Jb idevices and rooted android and I have pros and cons about both, but in understanding the nature of the beast both android and apple well depending on the android device, are great tools once they JB or rooted, but idevices pricey for a reason and I firmly believe you pay for performance and yes as a JB device idevices are extremely more powerful than android devices.

    • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

      10/20/2013 at 9:23 pm

      more powerful in which way?

      • Middleground

        10/21/2013 at 8:35 am

        Apple devices are more powerful in the JB state

      • Middleground

        10/21/2013 at 8:45 am

        It really depends on you purpose of use for the device if u wanna JB just to be like others, it’s sad but a stupid reason to even buy an apple device then if ur simply just looking to make it look nice so just get an android cause those who have little use for and knowledge of JB don’t know what to do with or even how to seriously use Idevices to their potential in the JB state of course

  18. [email protected]

    10/20/2013 at 8:55 pm

    Omg feels like it’s back to kindergarden day!!!

    • who shives a git

      10/20/2013 at 10:07 pm

      does home schooling count?

      • Larry

        10/20/2013 at 10:15 pm


        • who shives a git

          10/20/2013 at 10:17 pm

          safe to say this lame thread went to hell haha

    • Larry

      10/21/2013 at 12:40 pm

      Yes it does

  19. Your Sofa King We Todd Did

    10/20/2013 at 9:21 pm

    this would never happen if you just bought a black berry

  20. Larry

    10/20/2013 at 9:46 pm

    How about a good old pager???

  21. Your Sofa King We Todd Did

    10/20/2013 at 9:51 pm

    well not any more thats the one good thing my iphone is good for now that i cant jailbreak it

    • Your Sofa King We Todd Did

      10/20/2013 at 10:01 pm

      i got shards in my undies from my broken iphone cover because when i was shop lifting in walmart because i couldn’t afford to get toilet paper from ghetto market

      • Larry

        10/20/2013 at 10:20 pm

        Dude I love the replays keep them going this is real humor now I shard and wiped and got poop in the tip of my finger now my iphone screen has shard smears YEAH!!

        • who shives a git

          10/20/2013 at 10:22 pm

          lmao rotfl i use my iphone to wipe….its my favorite shard

          • Larry

            10/21/2013 at 8:13 am

            I totally agree there an iphone is best to wipe with and flushes well too πŸ’©πŸ’©πŸ’©πŸš½πŸš½πŸš½πŸ“²πŸ“²πŸ“²

        • shards are good

          10/20/2013 at 11:04 pm

          Well while you sit and wish in one hand and sh!t in the other about your jailbreak I’ll be enjoying my freedom of my less powerful lol(not)Android have a good 1. is Been real its been fun but it hasn’t been real fun goodnight

          • Middlegeound

            10/21/2013 at 8:52 am

            U can’t give me one honest fact that any android device are more powerful than Apple devices, pull some tech specs then realize that your opinion on the subject is just as stupid as you just made yourself seem to me at least, then eat a bag of baby dicks you incompetent fool, now your dismissed dumbass

          • njdan30

            10/21/2013 at 10:39 am

            you really like the baby dicks huh? brings back the good old days of you and uncle humps allot and the basement movies you made together with your iphone?noone here wants to here about that sh!t .go see a therapist to talk about that here isnt the place

          • middlegrounds puppet master

            10/21/2013 at 10:03 am

            i have the power to make u jump my little puppet,jump when i pull your strings jump

  22. who shives a git

    10/20/2013 at 10:27 pm

    you know these guys are all bent because they cant jailbreak,they got shards in their walmart undies,and now their threads been totaled

    • Larry

      10/21/2013 at 8:10 am

      I shard this morning at work after my coffee and it ran down the side of my leg and I shook my leg like a dog

    • Larry

      10/21/2013 at 8:26 am

      My boss told me to use a diaper so I don’t leak my shard on the office floor too, it was 4th of July wen I finally made it to the toilet πŸ’©πŸ’₯πŸ’₯🚽🚽😷😷

    • Larry

      10/21/2013 at 8:38 am

      Oh wen I go the 🚽🚽and make aπŸ’©πŸ’© I call it doing a discharge!!! I think shards and discharge go hand and hand!!😷😷 well back to the office my toilet break is over😫 till later I’ll be back good day😊

      • who shives a git

        10/21/2013 at 10:00 am

        i like the “go ahead and leave Larry” comment lmao,Middlegeound sound like he got his whole phone crammed up his ass not just a shard ,when u say powerful by what do u mean?hell there a ton of shit that looks great on paper to get retards like you to purchase things.opinions are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink(especially yours)

        • Larry

          10/21/2013 at 12:45 pm

          Thanks:)ya middlegeound need a ultra with wings Kotex for them heavy discharged days!!

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