Lots of folks are asking about how indepth the Windows 7 Math Input Panel works – does it do Algebra, Calculus, etc? Yes, it recognizes those formulas extremely well. Here some examples from using formulas from my son’s Algebra book. Click the images for fuller screenshots.

I don’t think the “insert” feature is working yet–at least with Wordpad, notepad. I haven’t heard if there’s a way to copy/paste the results either. Not sure yet of the format it would insert into the document. Maybe the destination document/application has to be “math” aware.

I am interested to know what format it inserts the equation as.
The equation tool that is available with current XP Tablet Edition inserts a bitmap file (BMP), which of course is absolutely useless.

Is the new tool similar to the built in Microsoft Equation Editor (little brother to MathType), or is it MathML aware, etc etc.

If Microsoft have made another bmp generator then it is a complete waste of time. Why? you say. Once generated it cannot be easily edited!!!!

A good inking solution would be to have the “generated” equation appear for additional editing in the ink panel!

A Maths Teacher who loves tablets but think Microsoft and others (XThink – Math Journal, Heulabs Fun with Construction, etc) haven’t quite got it right yet…

Yes, it will insert MathML into “aware” applications. Page 18 of the Windows 7 Developer Guide states, “This engine recognizes handwritten mathematical expression and translates the result into MathML format for applications to use.”

If MathML is similar to the current insertion of formula’s in Word 2007, that would be great.
Up till now I have only seen mathematical examples. Has anyone seen examples of chemical formulas and equations (with drawing arrows and such) that will be recognized? (e.g. CO2 + H20–> H+ + HCO3-).

Although this information is now posted elsewhere, I thought it would be a good idea to mention a couple things here since this thread is appearing at the top of Google search for some Math Input Panel searches.

Turns out the Math Input Panel is working fine in the M3 build. When you press "Insert" the equation is pasted to the clipboard as MathML. You'll need a MathML aware application to use the equation.

In terms of chemical formulas, I've found that the recognizer only works for a few. Most fail, which makes sense since the recognizer doesn't know about the chemical terms.

MathType 6.5 is a MathML-aware app so it should work with the Windows 7 math input panel. We would love to try it but have not yet gotten our hands on it. If someone wants to download one of our 30-day demo versions and try it, we’d love to hear about it. We will be looking at it asap.

Wow, Microsoft must’ve had a serious falling-out with Design Science if they’re not giving early-access through the various ISV programs. I mean, I know about Office, but the Windows group has a reputation of being friendly to ISVs. Either that, or Design Science is being Wordperfect and not being sufficiently proactive in lobbying to get into these programs.

Vyk

10/29/2008 at 1:16 pm

That is very cool =)

How do they appear in onenote, word processors and such? As images or text that can be modified?

Sumocat

10/29/2008 at 1:43 pm

Seems to have a real problem with “h”. Recognized incorrectly twice.

Rob

10/29/2008 at 2:02 pm

I’d agree on the h’s

vyk – I’m not sure yet – have not installed Word or OneNote yet

Amitai Rosenberg

10/29/2008 at 2:19 pm

Can you try it in notepad or wordpad, maybe?

Loren Heiny

10/29/2008 at 7:17 pm

I don’t think the “insert” feature is working yet–at least with Wordpad, notepad. I haven’t heard if there’s a way to copy/paste the results either. Not sure yet of the format it would insert into the document. Maybe the destination document/application has to be “math” aware.

Jim

10/29/2008 at 9:56 pm

I am interested to know what format it inserts the equation as.

The equation tool that is available with current XP Tablet Edition inserts a bitmap file (BMP), which of course is absolutely useless.

Is the new tool similar to the built in Microsoft Equation Editor (little brother to MathType), or is it MathML aware, etc etc.

If Microsoft have made another bmp generator then it is a complete waste of time. Why? you say. Once generated it cannot be easily edited!!!!

A good inking solution would be to have the “generated” equation appear for additional editing in the ink panel!

A Maths Teacher who loves tablets but think Microsoft and others (XThink – Math Journal, Heulabs Fun with Construction, etc) haven’t quite got it right yet…

Rob

10/29/2008 at 10:37 pm

Loren and I are not sure of the exact format. We believe it might be MathML. We’ll find out….

Lora Heiny

10/30/2008 at 1:26 am

Yes, it will insert MathML into “aware” applications. Page 18 of the Windows 7 Developer Guide states, “This engine recognizes handwritten mathematical expression and translates the result into MathML format for applications to use.”

Medic

10/30/2008 at 4:40 am

If MathML is similar to the current insertion of formula’s in Word 2007, that would be great.

Up till now I have only seen mathematical examples. Has anyone seen examples of chemical formulas and equations (with drawing arrows and such) that will be recognized? (e.g. CO2 + H20–> H+ + HCO3-).

Joe

10/30/2008 at 10:17 am

WouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t get your hopes up for chemistry. This wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t run on my tablet but on a virtual machine on my desktop, but still.

https://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chemistrybk8.jpg

It seems to mainly only recognize a, b, c and x, y, z as variables, and that might be why its not even considering the h there as an h.

Joe

10/30/2008 at 10:35 am

And a couple more math ones:

https://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=complexfunctionxv4.jpg

https://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=integralsrm4.jpg

https://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=limitsqv9.jpg

I know my handwriting is horrible in these, (like I said, done with the mouse on my desktop) but still, its pretty horrible at recognizing them.

Loren Heiny

11/16/2008 at 12:39 pm

Although this information is now posted elsewhere, I thought it would be a good idea to mention a couple things here since this thread is appearing at the top of Google search for some Math Input Panel searches.

Turns out the Math Input Panel is working fine in the M3 build. When you press "Insert" the equation is pasted to the clipboard as MathML. You'll need a MathML aware application to use the equation.

In terms of chemical formulas, I've found that the recognizer only works for a few. Most fail, which makes sense since the recognizer doesn't know about the chemical terms.

Paul Topping

12/18/2008 at 4:22 pm

MathType 6.5 is a MathML-aware app so it should work with the Windows 7 math input panel. We would love to try it but have not yet gotten our hands on it. If someone wants to download one of our 30-day demo versions and try it, we’d love to hear about it. We will be looking at it asap.

Paul

Design Science, Inc.

Tom

01/16/2009 at 5:43 pm

Wow, Microsoft must’ve had a serious falling-out with Design Science if they’re not giving early-access through the various ISV programs. I mean, I know about Office, but the Windows group has a reputation of being friendly to ISVs. Either that, or Design Science is being Wordperfect and not being sufficiently proactive in lobbying to get into these programs.